Blog banter #20: Griefing, not just for the tears
Aug23
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With the recent completion of the 3rd installment of the Hulkageddon last month, @CyberinEVE, author of Hands Off, My Loots!, asks: “Griefing is a very big part of EVE. Ninja Salvaging, Suicide Ganking, Trolling, and Scamming are all a very large part of the game. What do you think about all these things? You can talk about one, or all…but just let us know your overall opinion on Griefing, and any recommendations you may have to change it if you think it’s needed.”
Wikipedia tells us this: “A griefer is a player in a multiplayer video game that purposely irritates and harasses other players.”. However, within the EVE community, there are some that disagree that ninja salvaging, suicide ganking, trolling and scamming should be called griefing as CCP allows these things to happen and labels them valid tactics, not to mention there is a nice bit of ISK to be made. Let’s take a closer look at the arguments of both sides.
Ninja-salvaging: Unlike looting wrecks, salvaging them does not flag a player as salvage does not have an owner. This means that if you are running a mission or complex, and get probed out, another player can simply come in and go from wreck to wreck turning them into cans of loot. This can be annoying if the salvage consists of a high-price makeup such as armor plates. However there are also mission runners who prefer to simply run mission after mission and leave everything behind. So going by Wikipedia’s definition it depends on what the “victim” intended to do with those wrecks to begin with. It also depends on what the purpose of the “attacker” was. Did he know the “victim” would get upset? Or did he simply want to earn some easy ISK?
Suicide ganking: With the recent changes to the insurance system, this is becoming a more expensive way of causing tears to flow, meaning the attacker will more likely go for either targets that carry valuable goods, or have another good reason like carrying out a contract against a competitor for which he will get paid. Nobody likes their ship and contents getting blown up, even if they are rolling about in ISK and assets, but to be called griefing the attacker must have enjoyment of the act in mind as well as monetary gain and not consider it strictly business.
Trolling: Now this is something that will 99% of the time will fit Wikipedia’s description. 1% is reserved for the unintentional troll. The troll can have a variety of motivations, going from dislike for the person, not understanding what is written and react poorly to that fact, or just plain simple boredom. CCP does step in here when done on the forums, or when it escalates into pure harassment. However trolling can also be done in good spirits, my old friend Vaden Khale does like to do this to me at times, and I must say in every instance I had as good a laugh as he did.
Scamming: Contract scams and any others that give quick is in little time go right into the monetary gain category. Others, such as corp theft or alliance takeovers can be part of a strategy to eliminate competition, or are acts of revenge from disgruntled (ex-)members. The latter will of course be done to cause irritation, but again not exclusively.
Now let’s sum this up: The above mentioned examples can at times be motivated by what wikipedia calls griefing, but does not have to be so exclusively. It can also be an unintended side effect of a moneymaking, competition eliminating or war strategy. So in the end both sides make a valid point. However, one more thing should be taken into account: Griefing holds a very negative tone and has become slang for things done purely and exclusively to cause irritation and harass. Thus some will wish to only use it in that context, rather than its original definition.
And what do I make of it? I’m with CCP here. They are valid tactics. And they pay off. Just like piracy I could never see myself do any just to make some tears flow. I have better things to do, and making ISK is one of them. I also hold very few grudges, and those that I do this against tend to dig their own hole and fall into it sooner or later. So why bother?
